Webmin in EFA4

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toddh
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Webmin in EFA4

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I am curious. Now that I have the beta up and running I do not see Webmin.

Is that on the roadmap, or something we add on ourselves?

Thanks,

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Re: Webmin in EFA4

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I'm thinking of adding webmin in as an option you can turn on. Thoughts?
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Re: Webmin in EFA4

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Good idea.

I understand not everyone may want or use Webmin, so no sense using the resources.

We use Webmin whenever working on EFA. It would take me much longer without File Manager and GUI for editing files copy/paste etc. Also for configuring LDAP, scripts, postfix, mailscanner and so on. We have a considerable amount of customization in our Postfix.

Even for viewing log files.

It makes the whole package much easier to manage without being an expert in Linux.

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Re: Webmin in EFA4

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"adding webmin in as an option you can turn on" That's ok, but where do you draw the line?
I like the current minimal approach, as it's no issue to install additional packages. I always install mc, due the simple fact I'm used to it ( having a windows background) and I still feel a bit silly sitting next to someone who uses command-line only.

Sometimes you need to change. Just remember the first time you used the vi editor. When used to it, it's a blessing. :pray:

But, as always, that's my opinion ;)
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Re: Webmin in EFA4

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henk wrote: 18 Feb 2019 21:43 "adding webmin in as an option you can turn on" That's ok, but where do you draw the line?
I already did :lol:

Nothing will be installed unless you turn it on. This and some other things to come will not be "pre-loaded" like before :D
I like the current minimal approach, as it's no issue to install additional packages.
Agreed. I'm committed to this approach.
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Re: Webmin in EFA4

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I also find webmin useful to keep track of things, but agree if not required for EFA to function it should be optional :)
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Re: Webmin in EFA4

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I certainly dont mind learning new skills. I wish I knew Linux better after working with it for over 10 years. ;)

My challenge is the same as for most of us, we have a lot of ground to cover. Various Windows server technologies, different NIX distros and the hardware. I would love to know more about all of them. I shove stuff in my brain and most leaks out. :lol:

We have Webmin on all our Linux servers. Makes my work easier and reduces the learning curve.

btw I tried to install Webmin 1.90 on EFA4 and failed. :cry:

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I'll add the webmin option tonight for the next round of testing.
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Re: Webmin in EFA4

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Guys...

It has been a while since I used webmin, and the new interface ROCKS :D

Million $$$ question. Does this interface make the most sense for developing the admin portal for eFa as a webmin module? What is great is all the stuff you can already do with webmin,...and I don't have to reinvent the wheel :dance: :dance: :dance:

If I do, I will need to include webmin as a core component.

I was going to develop an admin portal from scratch using Symfony/Bootstrap/etc. but why?
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Re: Webmin in EFA4

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Aww hell, you can even do let's encrypt with webmin now...I AM reinventing the wheel!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Webmin in EFA4

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Is cockpit any better than webmin? I haven't used either much.
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Re: Webmin in EFA4

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I have not used cockpit.

We have webmin accross our Linux boxes because it is a familiar easy to understand interface. That doesn't make it better than anything else...

Except CLI :lol:
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Re: Webmin in EFA4

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Well, I want to use webmin, but...

https://www.exploit-db.com/exploits/46201

This is a problem :(

Also, just a PSA for anyone planning to use Webmin.

https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2019-9624
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Re: Webmin in EFA4

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Does it really matter if the admin site is sitting behind a firewall? I don't see why anyone in their right mind would open mailwatch/webadmin pages to the world
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Re: Webmin in EFA4

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We do not expose Webmin publicly. It is used only inside the network for system management.

Maybe add a Warning when the package is installed?

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Re: Webmin in EFA4

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toddh wrote: 14 Mar 2019 02:50 We do not expose Webmin publicly. It is used only inside the network for system management.

Maybe add a Warning when the package is installed?
I just came across this thread while trying to figure out why webadmin was not working on my new efa4 instance.

If you need to warn people not to expose webadmin to the internet... should those people even be administering the computers in question?

Probably not enabling webadmin by default is enough for the less experienced admins.

and holy crap! what an improvement in the webadmin interface!
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Re: Webmin in EFA4

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So no definitive answer in the thread,...

1. Is Webmin going to be an option to be enabled or installed?

2. If not right now, in the future?
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Re: Webmin in EFA4

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What's your particular question?

If it's "can we enable webadmin", then the answer is yes.

Enable it through the eFa Configuration Program, and then access it via https://<your-eFa-box>:10000/

If the question is: "can it be enabled by default", then suggest it as a feature request as it is not enabled by default for security reasons.

Is there anything else unanswered for you?
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