Next Major release OS version

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Debian stable
24
24%
CentOS 7
63
64%
Ubuntu LTS
11
11%
 
Total votes: 98

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Re: Next Major release OS version

Post by darky83 » 01 May 2015 14:51

lol, that is ancient :)
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Re: Next Major release OS version

Post by evharten » 10 May 2015 05:56

I would say FreeBSD or Debian, CentOS and Ubuntu are not really linux community, they refuse to contribute back to the linux community. (especially Canonical), CentOS does it a little bit but way to less still.

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Re: Next Major release OS version

Post by DaN » 01 Jun 2015 11:53

Note that the current CentOS version (CentOS-6) is still supported until November 30, 2020, so we have some time
How much time left to vote? Are we waiting for the right result?

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Re: Next Major release OS version

Post by darky83 » 01 Jun 2015 18:47

I wished we had a more clearer result :)

Just a single vote less for debian.

Keeping that in mind I am leaning more against CentOS 7 (altough I love debian based myself more..)
I think it is best to stay with CentOS and build further on the base we already have.
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Re: Next Major release OS version

Post by DaN » 02 Jun 2015 08:26

Wouldn't it be the best if the scripter and maintainer who work the most with the underlying OS select an OS which they know like the back of one's hand?

An OS which is widespread and which has a good open-source (!) community?

Maybe someone should make a survey "Do you use EFA if it’s based on [OS]?" I bet no matter which OS is [OS], the average user wants a good GUI and a stable system.

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Re: Next Major release OS version

Post by darky83 » 02 Jun 2015 11:51

I don't care if the system is based on CentOS or Debian, I 'like' debian more but linux = linux.

My main concern is stability, support and user acceptance.

Why am I more leaning against CentOS.. wel mainly because the livecycle support is longer and CentOS/RedHat is as far as I can tell used by more company's than Debian based.

Thats why we have the poll :), we have to do something for the next big upgrade anyway, with CentOS 7 an easy inplace upgrade is not really possible so we have to write some export -> import (migrate) tool for users to move to the new version.

If there is a bigger audience who would like to use Debian based then it is an easy choice, if not I guess i'm going to stick with CentOS.
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Re: Next Major release OS version

Post by thctlo » 30 Dec 2015 09:21

Hai,

Im a big debian fan, if you guys dont mind, i'll fork on github and im going to start to create an installer for Debian systems.
Is there any existing code which i can use maybe?

I have some good ideas also to even improve EFA more.
Im not the best coder, but i'll do my best.

I will only do an installer script, no VM images, this is because in the end i'll must be able to install without iso.

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Re: Next Major release OS version

Post by pdwalker » 30 Dec 2015 12:47

What about continuing with Centos 6? After all, it will be supported for another couple of years.

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Re: Next Major release OS version

Post by darky83 » 31 Dec 2015 19:17

That is the idea, try to maintain CentOS 6 but some features might become available only for an newer system which runs in beta until we migrate over completely (we already notice some issues with packages like unrar and centos 6..)

I'm thinking keeping EFA supported with CentOS 6.x and work on CentOS 7 for new features and support.

So I guess the best methode is:
EFA 3.x.x.x = Centos 6
EFA 4.x.x.x = Centos 7

We have until november 2020 with CentOS 6 so time enough to work on EFA 4 which is renewed :)
(or use Debian, but the poll is clear that people like CentOS more..)

The 'problem' with CentOS 7 is also Systemd, not everything is supporting Systemd just yet so it takes some work and development.
As most know EFA is just an collection of existing tools, which means that all support should first be 'ported' in the original source before we can use it in EFA, this takes some time.

My personal goal is good IPV6 support but it still requires some work for mailwatch, dcc, pyzor, razor, sqlgrey etc..
The same will probably be the case for good systemd support.

By the way:
Although i'm pretty busy at the moment and have not spend much time on EFA the past months, Shawn has been an big help with the project so kudo's for Shawn :clap: :mrgreen:
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Re: Next Major release OS version

Post by chrkov » 24 Jan 2016 19:24

Just curious on the timeframe for V4. IPv6 is starting to get more and more requested.

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Re: Next Major release OS version

Post by mac.linux.free » 24 Jan 2016 22:29

No Archlinux or Manajro Net Edition ?...that would be an open alternative. Just my 2 cents :)

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Re: Next Major release OS version

Post by pdwalker » 05 May 2016 09:21

I recently came across Devuan, a Debian fork with systemd excised.

I'm cautiously and optimistically, keeping an eye on it to see where it goes.

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Re: Next Major release OS version

Post by bblboy54 » 22 Oct 2016 23:43

I am a Debian guy.... I actually prefer Debian even to Ubuntu unless I'm working with something that deals a lot with media (solely because of repositories) but, in this case, I like the idea of going with LTS.... but honestly, I'd be for either Debian or Ubuntu.... I honestly almost passed right over EFA simply because it was CentOS based :shhh:

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Re: Next Major release OS version

Post by tesme33 » 23 Oct 2016 09:12

Hi
i just voted for CentOS 7 . Reason is my assumption that the "upgrade" from CentOS 6 to CentOS 7 should be easier.
But , as usual there is always a but :-), I have used on my VMs quite heavily Ubuntu LTS. And here the do-upgrade scripts work quite good.
So looking into the feature it might be easier to have one time a change and later have less issues.
Especially looking into the support policy (Dirty Cow) of the different companies i see that some react fast and from other you just dont get anything. And if you depend on such a company you are probably hit sooner or later. As CentOS relies on RedHat we are urrently depending on Redhat. Do we want this ?

The upgrade to another distribution might even be "just" an export of the config data and then import on the new system.

Just my 5 Cent.

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P.S.: I also dont like Systemd. You always need a tool to to something. With the good working init shell scripts you could use: ex.vi,awk,sed,... to edit or even do offline edit on any other system.

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Re: Next Major release OS version

Post by pdwalker » 24 Oct 2016 01:23

I'm currently evaluating Devuan - Debian without the hated systemd

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Re: Next Major release OS version

Post by bipsen » 12 Nov 2016 13:06

darky83 wrote:Also I want to start testing with EFA packages, I know how to package and maintain .deb packages but never created .rpm's (and last time I tried I run into some dependencies issues and gave up as source install was simple enough...) Ok maybe I sould read a few howto's :geek:
EPEL has a lot covered - but not all. I gave just tried to install on CentOS 7 with EPEL, and for sure some packages are missing. When it is perl modules, then can be installed using cpan - but for my test install I managed to rpm build most of the needed packages (it did not take that much time, sometimes it is possible to adopt a .spec file from e.g. Suse).

I more or less have the OS install and configuration covered - now I just need to modify the supporting scripts (configuration, monitoring and so on). Hopefully I will be able to give some feedback during a couple of weeks on my progress...

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Re: Next Major release OS version

Post by shawniverson » 12 Nov 2016 13:11

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Version 3.0.2.6 released! Update now to keep your eFa secure!

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Re: Next Major release OS version

Post by bipsen » 12 Nov 2016 19:25

shawniverson wrote::clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Would you be interrested in testing the VM image (just deployed, no configuration has been run) ? Parts of the config script (and other scripts - including the cron script for monitoring) probably needs to be adjusted - but it will be a place to start...

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Re: Next Major release OS version

Post by shawniverson » 12 Nov 2016 23:53

Yes :)
Version 3.0.2.6 released! Update now to keep your eFa secure!

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Re: Next Major release OS version

Post by bipsen » 20 Nov 2016 12:36

Will it make sense to convert some of the tar.gz files to RPM packages (even though most of the contents simply is copied to the target location) ?

It will make it easier to update components simply by using the yum command....

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Re: Next Major release OS version

Post by bbrendon » 30 Dec 2016 02:44

Where I'm from (visiting and working with lots of different companies) you rarely see a CentOS machine. Running around I see (in order of most common to least common) mostly Ubuntu, Debian, _other_, and finally a CentOS machine on very rare occasion. I've never even seen CentOS 7 in the real world. Only on lab machines.

It's rigged.

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Re: Next Major release OS version

Post by hunter-nl » 30 Jan 2017 14:54

At our company we have only Centos 7, except for eFa. The last system we need to "upgrade" is eFA. So I would like to start with eFa v4 to build it up on Centos 7. So I tried the build script as provided on GitHub. But the repo eFa v4 is empty (no access). Is there nothing available in the repo yet?

Also since the new forum software has been upgraded, the eFa v4 section in the forum has been gone. :cry:

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Re: Next Major release OS version

Post by mcLays » 11 Feb 2017 18:02

My considerations were based on RHEL distros only, so I modified EFA Centos KickStart script to build EFA RHEL ISO.
With RHEL we are compliant with our large company security policy and i'm totally not accepting moving to Debian direction, IMHO Debian/Ubuntu distros are for personal usage only.

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Re: Next Major release OS version

Post by BliXem » 30 Mar 2017 09:09

3x and 4x CentOS 6 and 7. I hope with version 4x we can also upgrade if we are still using Centos 6?

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Re: Next Major release OS version

Post by bilias » 11 Apr 2017 10:31

I also don't like systemd at all. It makes our life harder and more complicated without any gain.

However systemd is here to stay with linux, so systemd alone should not be an argument for choosing a Linux OS.

I've also voted for Centos due to it's longer support period and better support from RH.

Upgrade from 6 to 7 is also not a clean option. So export->import is the way to go.

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